THANK GOD the chargers won! the refs tried to hand peyton another game -- SD got ridiculous penalties ( a pass interference call when the receiver was not touched after the ball had been thrown) , a holding call when manning threw an interception and it was ran back for a TD -- funny how those two flags came in LATE -- poor peyton cries to get the calls he wants -- they also bend the rules and make new ones for him, San Diego also lost their starting QB rivers and starting RB tomlinson for the 4th quarter and their TE gates wasnt fully healthy for this intense match up - yet INDY still COULDNT win! -- this situation with bad calls reminded me of last years AFC Championship game - PATRIOTS vs. INDY when Ellis Hobbs was called for an interference penalty (face-guarding) which has NOT BEEN A PENALTY in years. Later after the game the Ref admitted the call was WRONG -- why do the refs want the colts to win so bad?

What could Peyton say about this game? the refs practically handed them the game -- similar to them trying to hand them the New England game earlier in the regular season. The refs kept giving calls INDYS way -- no whining now -- the COLTS will NO LONGER be the super bowl champs! they shouldnt have went tot he super bowl last year -- they change the rules for Peyton because he whines so much -- its funny how everything goes the COLTS way -- and its not because they are good... Its about time someone other than the pats had BAD calls in a game!


As for Peyton being the best QB of all time -- dont count your chickens before they hatch -- pretty sure he only has ONE superbowl ring. There are other QBs out there who have more than one -- but LOOK who beat his record this year and he DOESNT play in a DOME with a controlled environment! Its funny how when his main weapon is out with an injury INDY struggles and cant seem to win big! Peyton too many times tries to be the hero more than playing the game -- more often then not peyton will be the first to BLAME the loss on his teammates and how they didnt play well -- when will he take responsibility for his mistakes in a game? All his whining got what he deserved a loss in the playoffs to a better team! -- Peyton can kiss it! he may be in the top 10 qbs of all time but thats it

There is no NFL rule against face-guarding.

“I talked to Dean Blandino in the league office and he confirmed what you’re saying,” wrote Ketchman. “Ellis Hobbs should not have been flagged for pass-interference. He didn’t make contact with the receiver and in no way did Hobbs impede Reggie Wayne’s ability to catch the pass. Blandino confirmed that the incorrect call was made. … Referee Bill Carollo made no reference to face-guarding in his explanation, but CBS analyst Phil Simms did. Apparently, he, too, doesn’t know the rule no longer exists. The next time you hear a TV analyst say, ‘he wasn’t playing the ball,’ think of the Hobbs play, then turn down the sound.”

http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?a...45&pcid=41



GO PATS!

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Pure bs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! first off your sayin Reggie Wayne didnt get touched,well your dumb and blind!!! all of america seen the replay.Second your sayin the Pats never have cheating refs????!!! are u stupid,simple,or slow? pick one or pick one or all the above!!! the colts had no harrison,no Dwight Freeney,no Booger Mcfarland which are HUGE blows...and since u wanna guote people excuse me while i guote the great MIKE DITKA!!! "Winning championships doesnt make an individual great because its a TEAM effort,its about what that individual accomplished and what he alone is done"....yeah and he's right so stfu.all that crap u wrote was the most pathetic post i've ever seen!!! lets get some facts before we let our finger go haywire without thought process...and another thing Peytons broke many many many records that many never will!! including Tom Brady..I prefer to see a QB get hit and struggle a little bit rather than seein (BRADY) just stand in the pocket and think about what he's gonna do next week before he throws the ball!!! Brady knows nothing about pressure in the pocket what so ever because of the line!! if u put brick walls around Peyton he'll never lose a game again!!!! now imagine a trade between new england and indianapolis...Brady will see what its like not to have protection and will be destroyed while Peyton is made invincible!!!!!


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Manning is a choke BOTH OF EM! Wrote:the colts suck get over it

NEW ENGLAND IS SOOO MUCH BETTER

easy to say after the pat FINALLY get a win over the colts this year lmao.u got beat 3 times in a row!!!! and we got a ring out of it too! how does it feel..does it hurt??? did u cry???


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Lol are you effing blind? All the penalties were legit, they reply penalties on the jumbo-tron and they were penalties. And if your gonna say sh*t about Peyton Manning, talk about Phillip Rivers being a poor sport, he went to one of the crowd members and flicked him off for beating the Colts.

PHUCH_THE_PATS Wrote:

Manning is a choke BOTH OF EM! Wrote:the colts suck get over it

NEW ENGLAND IS SOOO MUCH BETTER

easy to say after the pat FINALLY get a win over the colts this year lmao.u got beat 3 times in a row!!!! and we got a ring out of it too! how does it feel..does it hurt??? did u cry???

How long have you been watching football dude? Seriously? The pats finally beat them this year? I remember AFC championships not so long ago with a certain little peyton almost in tears rolling his head back and forth and waving his arms at his receivers like it's all their fault. Their fault that yet another year "the best QB in the league" couldn't get it done. Couldn't get his team to the big game. And most importantly as Phil Simms used to put it "he just can't get past the patriots when it counts". (Patriots got a ring that year too after disposing of the mighty colts)

From your posts it appears all you do is come on here and sling crap at anyone who doesn't have the same opinion that you do. And talk about writing the facts, and people not watching the games and seeing what really happened. It's funny that most of your posts make it look like YOU are the one that just started watching football this year. I got it, i got it. It just came to me!!!!!!!!!!! You're one of those guys! You know the ones... you probably liked the rams or broncos when you first started watching football a few years back. Then when they sucked, you said gee, who's a good football team today??? And here we are...you are a colts fan and everybody else sucks and doesn't know jack. That's why you can only remember the last 3 pats/colts games. I know dudes like you. Yeah, there the ones that get made fun of at parties because they have 3 fav NFL teams! Don't be that guy dude...

I know that this year YOU are hurting, and maybe even the one crying. But pick yourself up little johnny and dust yourself off! There's more to life than peyton manning and maybe you'll realize that one day and people won't get attacked on boards like this for having an opinion. And just for the record, the chargers and patriots both outplayed their opponents and EARNED the right to move on. The colts did not. Therefore they are not the best team this year. Get over it.

pablo no hablo Wrote:

PHUCH_THE_PATS Wrote:

Manning is a choke BOTH OF EM! Wrote:the colts suck get over it

NEW ENGLAND IS SOOO MUCH BETTER

easy to say after the pat FINALLY get a win over the colts this year lmao.u got beat 3 times in a row!!!! and we got a ring out of it too! how does it feel..does it hurt??? did u cry???

How long have you been watching football dude? Seriously? The pats finally beat them this year? I remember AFC championships not so long ago with a certain little peyton almost in tears rolling his head back and forth and waving his arms at his receivers like it's all their fault. Their fault that yet another year "the best QB in the league" couldn't get it done. Couldn't get his team to the big game. And most importantly as Phil Simms used to put it "he just can't get past the patriots when it counts". (Patriots got a ring that year too after disposing of the mighty colts)

From your posts it appears all you do is come on here and sling crap at anyone who doesn't have the same opinion that you do. And talk about writing the facts, and people not watching the games and seeing what really happened. It's funny that most of your posts make it look like YOU are the one that just started watching football this year. I got it, i got it. It just came to me!!!!!!!!!!! You're one of those guys! You know the ones... you probably liked the rams or broncos when you first started watching football a few years back. Then when they sucked, you said gee, who's a good football team today??? And here we are...you are a colts fan and everybody else sucks and doesn't know jack. That's why you can only remember the last 3 pats/colts games. I know dudes like you. Yeah, there the ones that get made fun of at parties because they have 3 fav NFL teams! Don't be that guy dude...

I know that this year YOU are hurting, and maybe even the one crying. But pick yourself up little johnny and dust yourself off! There's more to life than peyton manning and maybe you'll realize that one day and people won't get attacked on boards like this for having an opinion. And just for the record, the chargers and patriots both outplayed their opponents and EARNED the right to move on. The colts did not. Therefore they are not the best team this year. Get over it.

ummm i never said the Colts were better than the pats this year....i said Manning is better than Tom and i meant what i said so post away til u turn blue in the face and then im going to paint a white horse shoe on your head! Go Colts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Man I'm not even here to say brady is better than manning. But wtf, if you hate brady soooo much you can't even admit he's one of the best ever. Than YOU are the one that sounds like too much of a fan and not enough football knowledge. The only times i hated players or teams as much as you hate brady is when they were dynasties. The 'boys, niners, and steelers come to mind for me. And looking back on it, I hated them because they were good. It was jealousy and just easier to say they sucked. When you start growing hair on your body and mature (probably like 5 years from now and the patriots will suck again and you'll have moved out of mom's house) you'll probably understand that you were just upset that your team wasn't as good at that particular time.

Look at your arguments of "all day in the pocket" and "moss and welker". Well, that's just this year. What about all those years people said "brady just manages the game. he's not flashy. he has no stats" Well, he has proved this year what he can do for stats when he finally has weapons like manning has had all these years. "but i like to see QBs struggle...face a little pressure...boo hoo hoo" You haven't seen games that brady's seen pressure this year??? It seems you've only watched the blowout games or sportscenter. Because in games they almost lost, and a couple other games, the other teams D brought it and if brady wasn't getting hit he was on his backside sacked. But he rose up and did the SAME thing manning does. He checked down and made the D's pay for bringing pressure, and both of them are masters at this. And that is honest.

If you think that brady is so overrated, then let's put bledsoe back in that offense the last 7 years. They would be right back where they used to be. Struggling to be 9-7, 10-6 on their best years, and never past the first round of the playoffs.

Well...I'm starting to turn blue in the face, so I better stop posting before you come teach me a lesson!

PHUCH_THE_PATS Wrote:

Manning is a choke BOTH OF EM! Wrote:the colts suck get over it

NEW ENGLAND IS SOOO MUCH BETTER

easy to say after the pat FINALLY get a win over the colts this year lmao.u got beat 3 times in a row!!!! and we got a ring out of it too! how does it feel..does it hurt??? did u cry???

I cried Because Harrison was out we had a team full of number 3 receivers, no Junior, Seymore was hurt and the Pats still almost beat the colts at home. And that was the only time the the colts have beat the pats in a meaningful game. Pats dominate the Colts and now that Brady has recievers we see how much better he is than manning. Its Ok to dislike a team or person because they beat you down all the time but you still need to show respect. Cherish that Ring because you won't see one of those again for a long time!!
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Dy-nast Wrote:

PHUCH_THE_PATS Wrote:

Manning is a choke BOTH OF EM! Wrote:the colts suck get over it

NEW ENGLAND IS SOOO MUCH BETTER

easy to say after the pat FINALLY get a win over the colts this year lmao.u got beat 3 times in a row!!!! and we got a ring out of it too! how does it feel..does it hurt??? did u cry???

I cried Because Harrison was out we had a team full of number 3 receivers, no Junior, Seymore was hurt and the Pats still almost beat the colts at home. And that was the only time the the colts have beat the pats in a meaningful game. Pats dominate the Colts and now that Brady has recievers we see how much better he is than manning. Its Ok to dislike a team or person because they beat you down all the time but you still need to show respect. Cherish that Ring because you won't see one of those again for a long time!!

But the Colts never got beat by the GIANTS!....hmmmmmmmm


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Now forgive my again immaturity but which one of these teams logos look really gay???? hahahahahaha hint:he's bending over and the clothes he has on were definitely not purchased in the mens departmen!!!

Nothing in Kemp's original post has shown that as the title states, "Peyton Manning - ALL time leading BABY."  
1)  The only thing remotely close to calling Manning a baby at all was the remark on Peyton crying to the refs, which by the way, every single QB does that, well any good QB who gives two craps about his team's success.  Show a little less bias please.  Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, my fav Ben Rothlisberger, etc, etc, every single one of them, as you say "whine" to the refs about certain calls and non-calls.  I have seen all of the aforementioned quarterbacks, especially etc (that guy is a competive sum of a gun, that durn etc guy), give their receivers exasperated looks when the play is a bust.  Did you watch Brady in the Super Bowl?  He threw one of receivers a ball that was way over his head on the sidelines, and then there Brady went, screaming at the receiver and waving his arms around.  Not the receiver's fault he is not 10 ft tall.  
2)  If you want to try to claim 'ALL time leading BABY,' then there's a little thing you have to look at called his consecutive games starting streak.  10 yrs straight he has started every single game.  It takes some kind of toughness to get back on the field after getting sacked a buncha times  and taking the hits a QB takes while playing.  Right behind him is Tom Brady, who has not missed one game since he became the starter in 2001.  There are some really mentally and physically weak players who have played the game, and that's just in my time watching football.  Steve Young was getting injured quite often, and would rarely, if ever, play hurt.  Troy Aikman was getting concussions left and right, from some pretty weak hits, I might add.  Now that has got to put them a little more in the running for 'ALL time leading BABY.'  And that is just the upper teir of the 1990's.  What about Ryan Leaf?  What about Chad Pennington, for crying out loud?

That's all I am saying. don't be so biased.  BTW, what's up with the Giants, namely a Eli Manning, taking away that guaranteed victory every1 thought the Patriots had?  Seems that ur gonna need to really reevaluate your choice of a name "Manning is a choke-both of them."  Seems that to me that if a QB can get to the Super Bowl and win it, which now both Mannings have done, they can't really be classified as a "choke."  Marino is the biggest name on the list for good QBs who never made it to the Big Game.  Elway made it to three Super Bowls from 1987 thru 1990 but got beat badly in all of them b4 he actually won one.  
So please, don't just go off an emotional reaction because you didn't like watching the Colts beat the Pats last year.  I don't like watching the Colts beat my Steelers either, but it happens.  I am not gonna hate on Peyton because he got it done when my team couldn't.  BTW, you should feel a little better since the Pats did squeak out a win against them this year.  But basing this 'Biggest Baby' stuff on pure emotion, not on facts, is just not realistic.